hallo, ich habe ein großes performance problem meiner l4d2 map es treten immer ruckler auf kurz hintereinander.
ich habe mir tutorials zur optimierung angeschaut, aber weis nicht wie ich diese für außenareale umsetze
ich glaube allerdings das dieses problem an einem fehler der map liegt ich habe
per +showbudget mir den rechenaufwand meienr map angeschaut dabei kam das hier raus
http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/8882/left4dead2201001011853
unter dem punkt "mat threaded-noframe" falls ich es richtig abgelesen habe ist die rechenleistung besonders beansprucht nur hab ich durch google und andere foren nicht herausgefunden was das bedeutet ich hoffe jemand kann mir hier sagen woran das liegt
gruß Tommy

Ist Vis durchgelaufen?

Hast du komplexe brush struckturen zu "func_detail" gemacht und nicht sichtbare seiten mit der texture "Nodraw" belegt?

also ich hab bei dem hauptgebäude (eine kleine tankstelle) die wände zu fun_details gemacht aber hügel ringserum also die displacemants nicht ...hatte irgendwo gelesen das man das nicht machen sollte bei den die den rand einer map darstellen und ich nehme mal an ob vis durchgelaufen ist, das steht doch im log oder ? ich werds nochmal durchlaufen lassen und hier posten
gruß

dies ist meine logdatei, ich habe in meinem terrain noch die unterseiten mit no draw texturen belegt außerdem habe ich auch shocnmal die darstellung im spiel per fog controller minimiert also aber es ruckelt immernoch das wird wohl an dem wert bei meinem screenshot liegen nur weis ich nicht was das bedeutet


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Patching WVT material: maps/l4d_fuelstop_beta12/nature/blend_urbandirtlawn01_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/l4d_fuelstop_beta12/brick/blend_brick_brick01_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/l4d_fuelstop_beta12/nature/blendswampmudleaves02b_wvt_patch
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env_cubemap pointing at deleted brushside near (1065, -562, -211)
env_cubemap pointing at deleted brushside near (1065, -562, -211)
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Average clusters visible: 268
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visdatasize:141493 compressed from 168896
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Du darfst NIE auf einem displacement die textur "Nodraw" verwenden!

Ansonsten sieht der log ganz normal aus, weiß jetzt au nich mehr richtig worans liegt hm.

€:: Das fällt mir garde auf

env_cubemap pointing at deleted brushside near (1065, -562, -211)
env_cubemap pointing at deleted brushside near (1065, -562, -211)
env_cubemap pointing at deleted brushside near (1065, -562, -211)

3 env_cubemaps sind auf eine gelöschte brushseite eingestellt. Könnte der übeltäter sein, bin mir aber nicht sicher.

okay danke ich schau mal nach

also an den env_cubemaps liegt es nicht ic hdenke eher an dem eintrag der auf dem screenshot
zu sehen ist
http://www4.pic-upload.de/02.01.10/vh2oqb5a1wl2.jpg